If this is where Nora Quoirin slept the night she disappeared, it changes everything

Since following this case, there’s been a frustrating lack of information. Very few photos of the resort were released, and very little information has been made freely available to contextualize the scene. Has this been by accident, or by design?

The images released by the authorities of the window [the imputed exit point when Nora supposedly wandered off] were from such a wide angle, it was difficult to see any artifacts either on the inside or outside of the windows. There was also only a limited view inside the bungalow.

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As a result of extensive digging and dogged research it’s been a slow process to start piecing the Quoirin accomodations together.

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Having done so, it now appears unlikely that Nora slept upstairs at all. The parents and siblings told police Nora slept close to them, upstairs [see screengrab below]. But is this accurate? If it is, why didn’t they hear her move out of the room? The bungalows upstairs have wooden floors. So if she was sleeping right beside them, how couldn’t they hear her?

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We also know the children were later not allowed to communicate any further with investigators as a result of “legal advice”. The family lawyered up as early as Day 2 of Nora’s disappearance. Missing from the British or Irish coverage of the case was this snippet of intelligence published in the Malay Mail on August 7th, and sent to me courtesy of @McCannCaseTweet [who’s also been cautiously studying this case].

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These [see below] are the upstairs living quarters. Enough to sleep four people. [Nora was on holiday with her parents, and two younger siblings, a brother and a sister as reported in The Mirror on August 7th].

With her spatial difficulties, she would have struggled to navigate the spiral staircase between the upstairs and downstairs level, especially at night.

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It was never explicitly stated where Nora slept, if she was upstairs with her parents or with her siblings, but one assumed it was with her siblings. It was clearly implied that she slept upstairs on August 3rd, and that she was the most tired after their long trip.

But the police believed – correctly – that Nora probably didn’t sleep upstairs, despite what the parents and perhaps Nora’s siblings had told the Malaysian authorities. This comes from The Sun, August 9th.

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Below is a clear view from the inside towards the kitchen window. It shows a third bedroom in the double-story Sora House. If this is accurate, Nora was left to sleep on her own, while the family – the Quoirin couple and her younger siblings – all slept upstairs.

If Nora woke up at night and went looking for her family, would they have heard her? And isn’t that why she might have wandered off in the first place – because she was in a strange place, in the dark, looking for her mom and dad, brother and sister, couldn’t them and horribly lost in the process?

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The Sora House appears to be the biggest of the six units offered by the resort.

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Was this vertiginous setup of structures connected by stilts and staircases really the ideal setting for a child with Nora’s developmental difficulties and cognitive vulnerabilities?

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Demystifying the Nora Quoirin Case: Topography – There were Several Waterfalls

The media has reported variously that Nora Quoirin’s body was found “appearing asleep” in a ravine, close to a waterfall. The obvious assumption is that it was the Lata Berembum waterfall, situated roughly 1.5 kilometres [1 mile] from the resort.

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However, along the Gunung Berembun trail leading due east, away from the resort, are a series of small waterfalls and rapids. One of them is the Air Terjun Gunung Berembun Pantai.

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So the question is, at which waterfall along the river was she found? The media has reported various distances from the resort, ranging from 600 metres to 1.2 miles to 1.5 miles to 1.6 miles.

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It would be good to have absolute certainty on precisely where she was found using GPS co-ordinates and a clear map reference.

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Nóra Quoirin’s Grandfather Believes Nora WAS the victim of a crime. This makes sense.

Sylvain Qoirin, Nora’s grandfather, provides insight into his granddaughter’s unique personality:

“She was very sensitive, shy, inhibited, introverted. She became anguished if her family weren’t present. She clung to her parents and sister. It is not possible she would have willingly left with a stranger. If she went out alone by mistake, she would have banged on the door and screamed to be let back in.”

“Can you imagine her walking 2.5km, naked and barefoot, over rocks, in the middle of the night? For me, that’s absurd. Do you think she would go walking around at night? For me, it is obviously a criminal case, by default. She could not have wandered.”

And in reference to the area where her body was found, her grandfather’s position is firm:

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Nóra Quoirin: ‘It is not possible she would have willingly left with a stranger’ – Irish Times

“I have been engaged from the second day after Nora went missing.” – Quoirin Family Lawyer

We now have confirmation on exactly when the Quoirin family decided to seek legal representation. Day 2 of the search seems very early for the family to have “lawyered up”.

This may have occurred because the family believed themselves – or feared – they might be suspects in their daughter’s disappearance. We know, early on, the police didn’t validate their insistence that their daughter was abducted.

On August 13th, the day her body was found, Malaysia’s deputy police chief Mazlan Mansor confirmed a criminal investigation was still on-going alongside a missing persons inquiry.

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What is the most obvious thing innocent parents will do in a genuine missing persons case [aside from show appropriate emotion]?

The bad guy in cases where children go missing isn’t so much the parents [who should typically be seen as default suspects without evidence to the contrary], it’s the idea that we don’t know how innocent people are supposed to grieve. Intuitively, I think most of us do. Most of us know that in the most basic sense, when someone close to us dies, grief can be overwhelming, emotions come and go, but that’s not to say grief is paralyzing. It’s often the opposite – parents become lions as they attempt to champion the cause of their charges.

In the Quoirin case it’s hard to make a call in the “appropriate emotion” category simply because we’ve seen very little of the parents, and because we know so little about them. There’s very little to go on. We know the father is a salesman, the mother a marketer, so addressing crowds and trying to convince people of something shouldn’t be out of character for them.Fullscreen capture 20190814 213522

But the thing that’s always so surprising in these cases is the most basic thing. A child goes missing and yet why aren’t the parents seen actively looking for their child? Everyone is searching, hundreds of people, why aren’t you! Why aren’t they photographed searching? Why do we invariably see them reading statements?

It’s perfectly fine to read statements, but do that and search for your child. In a scenario where parents don’t search for their children there can be only two alternatives. Either they’re so grief-stricken they’re unable to move on their own [both parents]. Or they know their child is dead and so even pretending to look [as they see it] is pointless.

In the McCann case, there was also a rush to engage the media, and despite the couple spending four months in Praia da Luz, one never saw cameras following them through any area, ever, searching. It was important that the search continue not matter what the cost, then and now, but they weren’t going to do any searching themselves.

When they traveled abroad it was from one press conference to the next. The police quite justifiably asked them to explain where or how or when they had searched for Madeleine.

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In the JonBenet Ramsey case, several hours after the police arrived, at around 13:00, the father was asked to search his home for his missing six-year-old daughter from top to bottom. That’s how they found her. John Ramsey had to be asked to look for his daughter. [John Ramsey elected to search from bottom to top, and as it happened, JonBenet was in the lowest basement wine cellar of the house].

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Chris Watts is another example of someone who knew where he was family was all along, and while everyone else was looking, he was at home cleaning his home.

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Another question that makes no sense: if the parents were so vocal while Nora was missing, why have the parents been silent following the discovery of Nora’s body?

Their scenario was that she was abducted. This means – in their scenario – an abductor not only took her away, but took her life. Why wouldn’t they be even more indignant given this outcome, and given their beliefs? Find the abductor! Didn’t anyone see anything?

One wonders why the family can’t provide clarity on whether they still feel an abduction took place, or whether they agree with the police that she could have wandered off after all. Or have they taken legal advice to remain silent?

Nora Quoirin: Can we rule out accidental death?

On the face of it, accidental death can be ruled out. Nora Quoirin clearly didn’t fall from the top of the ravine into it. When volunteers saw her body, they originally assumed that she was sleeping, which suggests they saw no obvious injuries or bleeding.


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The fact that the volunteers who found her assumed Nora was elsewhere “and walked to the stream” also addresses the possibility that Nora was initially elsewhere, and that someone else had control or custody or knowledge of her corpse, and when the coast was clear, this person possibly walked to the stream with her body, and left her there.

Besides this, the body didn’t look at though it dropped or landed where it lay, but rather that either Nora herself purposefully and intentionally lay down there herself, or someone lay her down.

The way the body was laid out may indicate that Nora died in her sleep, either where she was found or somewhere else. The fact that she was naked may be due to environmental factors, or this was done intentionally by a third party to suggest something – for example a pedophile abduction.

We can also assume, from the way the body was presented, that either Nora wanted to be found [naked] or didn’t care if she was found in this way, or whoever left her there wanted her to be found [perhaps after a prescribed period of not wanting her to be found]. If the latter, who might experience such a change of heart and why after ten days, why not sooner, or later?3648

Now to address the question on its own merits: irrespective of where the body was found, it’s possible and even likely something happened to Nora somewhere else. It’s possible she fell inside the resort bungalow, or that some other accident occurred, relating to sedatives, or a medical reaction of some sort. So an accidental death is still possible, but the likelihood of some sort of cover up has also increased.

If this is true, and if we assume the potential involvement of family members, then the media attention was a deliberate smokescreen designed not to attract attention to Nora, or to the resort, but effectively to distract away from it, and to – effectively – the media.

Each time the police are giving press conferences it’s also a way to delay and divert the actual search. This isn’t the first time PR has been used to distort or disrupt an investigation. 0_MALAYSIA-BRITAIN-IRELAND-FRANCE-POLICE-MISSING

 

These are the volunteers who found Nora’s body and this is the Quoirin Family Lawyer [PICTURES]

Sean Yeap [below] his wife Shirley  Yeap and Mary lou were part of a small group of civilian volunteers who found the body. It’s significant that this random, untrained civilian crew were able to find what hundreds of trained searchers [and sniffer dogs] could not.

The trio also said they smelled the remains from a distance.

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Sankara N. Nair is the lawyer representing the family. So far he’s been saying the family is traumatized.

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BREAKING: Why French prosecutors have opened a criminal investigation into Nora Quoirin’s death

There’s a simple reason to classify a case criminal or not. The circumstances around a disappearance or death are either suspicious or they aren’t. If they meet the standard to be reasonably suspicious, then it becomes a criminal investigation.

One of the most suspicious aspects of this case is the imputed “scene” where the body was found. This has been the most mysterious part all along – why was it so difficult to find Nora Quoirin’s body. How did it take ten days?

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It turns out the area where she was found had already been searched. It’s possible someone close to the events knew this, and moved the body there after the fact.

If so, who?

Why?

More: Nora Quoirin: autopsy yet to determine cause of death, say police

Was Nora moved? Volunteer who found Nora Quoirin’s naked body believes she could NOT have been there when search teams first checked the area – Daily Mail

“You can almost hear the wind rustle when you look at this Vincent van Gogh painting.”

What makes Vincent van Gogh really come alive to us is when we flick the switch of our imaginations, see what he sees, see his life and surrounds as he saw it and experienced it. But we must do the same in terms of his death, if we’re to truly understand what happened and why.

Nora Qoirin: Is the plot thickening?

Typically, autopsies take two to four hours, and preliminary results are usually available within 24 hours. A full report might take 6 weeks to compile. The fact that Nora Quoirin’s autopsy has taken three to four times longer than a standard autopsy, suggests a complicated crime scene in terms of the victimology.

If Nora did wander the woods for a long time, she may have suffered extensive bruising, cuts and other injuries. Her remains may also have been interfered with by wild animals – a factor that cannot be excluded in a rural, tropical setting over a period of 10 days.

What may make the autopsy difficult is if the remains had been washed several times by successive downpours, or if it fell into water and was put through intermittent cycles of rushing groundwater. This scenario would need to be separated from a cause of death by drowning, for example.

What I would like to know is whether the crime scene where the body was recovered was not covered previously by search teams, earlier in the week. Which is to say, was the area initially excluded, and the body later discovered there by a volunteer, or had the particular area never been searched? The latter is difficult to imagine since it was just 1.6 miles from the resort, with hundreds of trained searchers combing the area, day and night for ten consecutive days.

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Post-mortem on Nora Quoirin’s remains continues, statement tomorrow – Straits Times

SEREMBAN: The post-mortem examination of the remains of Irish teen Nora Anne Quoirin has turned into a marathon of sorts. The examination, by a team of senior pathologists led by Dr Siew Sheue Feng from Kuala Lumpur Hospital, is still going on, nine hours after it began at 11.45am.

A press conference scheduled for 5pm to announce the initial results of the examination was postponed to 8pm, but as that hour came and went, there was still no sign of senior police officers to update the media.

When deputy state police chief Senior Assistant Commissioner Che Zakaria Othman finally appeared, he said the post-mortem examination was still on-going. He said police could not release any details as yet because of this. “I made a decision based on the instruction of state police chief (Datuk Mohamad Mat Yusop) that a statement will only be issued at a time to be advised tomorrow. There is also no new development at the scene (where Nora Anne’s body was found) that I have to report,” he told a horde of reporters who had been stationed outside the Tuanku Ja’afar Hospital mortuary, some from as early as 6.30am.

Che Zakaria declined to answer any questions. While post-mortem examinations generally take a long time, the fact that this one has taken so long has left many questions lingering in the minds of all following the case.

At 2:45 in the clip below, the former spindoctor for the McCanns [who were once prime suspects in the disappearance and possible death of their daughter] Clarence Mitchell explains why it’s good practice to alert the media when a child abduction happens.

There’s also another issue to address, which was the speed at which the family got a media apparatus up and running. I won’t deal with that aspect just yet, except to point out what this achieves.

At 2:45 in the clip below, Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ ex-spin doctor explains why it’s essential to keep a missing persons case alive in the media, especially when these incidents occur in foreign countries.

Mitchell’s spiel is that by alerting international media, pressure is brought to bear on law enforcement, especially external pressure. The suggestion is that without this pressure, the police wouldn’t do their job.

But one could clearly also make the argument that in a scenario where one or both parents are involved in the death of their child, it would theoretically suit them to have some outside entity exerting enormous pressure on the authorities, while leveraging public sympathy to their own benefit. This is a subtle but powerful way to manipulate an investigation, and from the beginning, this was one – the Nora Quoirin disappearance – did experience precisely that kind of external buffeting.

In the McCann case massive external pressure and some of the most high-profile media exposure in the history of true crime was brought to bear. What this did was it pressurized the investigation all right, ultimately leading to a number of court cases, almost all to do with defamation, book deals, and the defense of book deals. No one was charged in the Madeleine McCann case, and the lead investigator soon lost his job because of something he said to the media.

Within the idiosyncracies of the McCann case, Portuguese law has certain privacy constraints as a matter of course when conducting a criminal investigation. The British media and flouted these. Soon investigators were in effect bullied into towing the line and paying homage to the narrative as set out in the media. Much of the tone of this line was orchestrated by the parents themselves, using public fundraising money to pay for PR folks like Clarence Mitchell.

Mitchell has also worked for the disgraced data mining company Cambridge Analytica. Why, when there is a missing child case like this one, is he still being called as a credible spokesman to pontificate on how these cases should be handled? If anything, investigation via PR is how it should not be handled.

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