No Body No Crime: Did coverage of Casey Anthony case inspire Frazee to kill Kelsey?

The standout feature of the Frazee case is the extraordinary lengths the convicted murderer went to to get rid of Kelsey’s remains. The standout feature of the Casey Anthony case was whether Caylee was missing, or dead.

No body. No crime.

It was only when Caylee’s skeletonized remains were located that Casey was charged with her murder.

The takeout?

No body. No crime.

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Frazee actually said these words to a witness in April 2018, slap bang in the middle of the mainstream media’s ten year anniversary coverage of Casey Anthony.

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Coincidence?

Nichol Kessinger COULD be prosecuted if…

…If she lived Hawaii, Mississippi, New Mexico, South Dakota,  Utah or North Carolina, and if Nichol was a man, she could be prosecuted via what is known as “tort law” regarding alienation of affection. Couldn’t she?

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1 month before her third pregnancy, Shan’ann was considering divorce – Discovery Documents [25th Tranche]

The “if she was a man” clause in the statement above should give you pause, and should alert you to the sexist nature inherent in this tort law. Where did the this law come from? The apposite question isn’t where but when.

The Alienation of Affection law is an antiquated legal artifact dating back to the 18th century. It was originally a pretty sexist legislation, designed to protect a paternal setup: a husband’s property rights were protected by this law, including the recognition that the wife was the property of the husband during that time. And so a third party cheating with her could be accused of “damaging” the property of the husband. Of course no such law existed then to protect the interests of the other spouse – the wife.

Arguably, society and the law have both changed so much that the law doesn’t necessary protect the rights any more of either spouse during adultery. Although I studied family law for one year at university, I’m no expert on the subject, but it seems clear that it only kicks in due to contractual arrangements, and not by default. Based on whether the couple were married in community of property or not, that will determine to some extent how assets are divide. If married out of community of property, very few protections apply.

According to Vice.com:

Alienation of affection is a type of tort claim, which basically means that a private individual can sue another private individual for doing some kind of wrong to them. For alienation of affection claims specifically, a plaintiff who believes their spouse left them because of the actions of a third party, usually an extramarital lover, can file a lawsuit against that third party.

Robin Lalley is a family law attorney with the firm Sodoma Law who practices in North and South Carolina. Having represented clients on both sides, she says alienation of affection cases are not difficult to win. The most difficult part tends to be proving someone else’s actions played a role in the breakup. That may be more circumstantial, she says, though it does help if the deserted spouse has evidence of the affair, such as texts or photos captured by a private investigator.

“Things like that make it all the more clear to a jury or to a judge that there was some kind of act that would have alienated the affection of your spouse from you,” Lalley says. Also, she adds, “it’s not a necessary element that you prove that your spouse and the third party had sex … Technically, it could be an emotional affair.”

According to local media reporting, about 200 alienation of affection claims are filed every year in North Carolina, though most are settled out of court. When potential clients approach Lalley about filing such a lawsuit, she says she usually asks what they hope to get out of it. “If you want money, then [the third party] has to have money to go after. The average person doesn’t have thousands or millions of dollars just lying around,” she says. “If you’re doing it just on principle, that’s a pretty expensive cause of action to pursue,” considering court costs and attorney fees.

Earlier this year, Keith King, the founder of a BMX entertainment company near Greenville, captured national media attention after he was awarded $8.8 million by a judge after he sued the man who’d been seeing his wife for more than a year. He told WRAL that he realized he’d probably never see that money, but winning his case was more important.


TCRS: Only a man can be sued in this scenario.

More: His wife cheated on him. So he sued the other man for $750,000 — and won. – Washington Post

Suing The Person Your Ex-Spouse Cheated On You With Is Deeply Unchill – Vice.com

Adultery and fornication: Why are states rushing to get these outdated laws off the books? – Salon


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2 X Cadaver Dogs Radar and Lucy, Krystal’s Alibi and her father testifies about her “likes to please” Personality – PATRICK FRAZEE TRIAL DAY 6

Recap of Day 5


Day 6

Friday is another cold, glassy clear day in Colorado.

All the effort to burn and dispose of the poor woman’s remains, and the cadaver dogs knew all along there were dead remains.

So Kelsey’s remains were moved twice. From the condo to the Nash Ranch, and from the Nash Ranch to somewhere else where he burned it – southwest of Cripple Creek.


Mid-morning Break


 


Lunch Break




Further Reading:

Patrick Frazee murder trial: ‘I figured out a way to kill her,’ friend testifies Frazee told him – The Denver Channel

Patrick Frazee murder trial: K-9 handlers say dogs hit on items tied to Kelsey Berreth’s killing – The Denver Channel

Patrick Frazee murder trial: Defense questions why Kenney never alerted anyone to murder plot – The Denver Channel

Patrick Frazee trial: Star witness stands ground under cross-examination, declaring, ‘It’s the truth’ – The Gazette

Krystal Kenney Testifies about Where Kaylee was during Murder, Disposing of Kelsey’s Remains, Cover-up – PATRICK FRAZEE TRIAL DAY 5

Some new voices have joined the throng of mainstream coverage of the Patrick Frazee case, this bright blue morning on Day 5.

She said she never called police out of fear that she’d be blamed, and that Frazee would call someone to kill her, too.

SOURCE: THE GAZETTE

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In the afternoon session, Kenney faced aggressive cross-examination from Frazee’s defense team.

Think of it – Kenney driving for hours from Idaho with a murder weapon in her vehicle, and murder in heart and mind. Irrespective of what she did or didn’t do, malintent was clearly present.



 

Further Reading:

Patrick Frazee trial: Video shows prosecution’s star witness pointing to spot where Kelsey Berreth was allegedly burned – The Gazette

Video shows witness in Patrick Frazee trial pointing to spot where Kelsey Berreth was allegedly burned – Pikes Peak Courier

The Cover of “Letters from Christopher”

Fullscreen capture 20190919 224954Author Cheryln Cadle decided that, after a calling from God, she would write to Chris and ask him if she could write a book about his story. Surprisingly, he wrote back.

After a few back-and-forth letters, Chris sent the paperwork to Cheryln to be put on the visitors’ list. She then visited him and they talked about her writing a book. After visiting him, he told Cheryln he wanted to tell her his confessions in writing because he felt their conversations were being recorded. He has revealed things to her that no one else knows, not even the FBI. Some of these details will be completely shocking for you to hear.

Letters from Christopher is a true crime story with important information to put the pieces of the puzzle together for inquiring minds. Read herein the completely truthful account of what happened to Shanann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico Watts.

Source: Dorrance Publishing

Nora Quoirin to be buried in Belfast on September 10th – L’yonne Republicaine

According to Charles Morel, the Quoirin family lawyer in France, Nora will be buried on Tuesday, September 10th in Belfast, Ireland. -Nora is the granddaughter of the mayor of Venizy, Sylvain Quoirin. When asked about the investigation into Nora’s death, L’yonne Republicaine quoted Morel saying: “We are waiting.” This is presumably a reference to the still outstanding toxicology results.

 

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Statement Analysis of someone else’s Statement Analysis of Meabh Quoirin’s First Public Statement on August 10th [UPDATED]

First of all, when doing Statement Analysis it’s important to be transparent about source material. Oddly, it’s quite hard to find this particular video on YouTube, and there aren’t many of them.

My Statement Analysis is derived from a strongly-worded Statement Analysis by an anonymous person who posted theirs at this link. Mine won’t be thorough; just a glossing through and highlighting a few points of consensus, and debate.

The Analysis starts off with the right strategy, transcribing the entire 107-word statement. Then it commences with analysis of the salutation.

Good morning, everyone.

This is unexpected as at the time, her daughter’s whereabouts are supposed to be unknown. It is unexpected from a mother in panic not sure how her daughter’s condition is and whose hands she is in. How can this morning be good?

This is an early indication of fairly substantial cognitive bias from the writer. Because Meabh doesn’t say “Good morning.” She starts off with “Morning.” Those around her answer, “Good morning”.

I do agree that even a polite greeting, with or without the “good” may feel a little strange under the circumstances. We don’t expect to hear a salutation at the beginning or end of a 911 call. But this is different. Even though it’s an emergency it’s a long emergency. It’s protracted and the setting is different. It’s personal with a lot of people standing beside and around them. So in my opinion, the salutation is the natural thing to do, even though the situation is stressful and urgent.

There are many other aspects to address, including the frequent use of “everyone”, “every one” and “everything” in this brief statement.

Since I don’t typically do this sort of analysis in blogs, I won’t elaborate in further depth on the conventions, semantics etc. To do justice to statement analysis one has to be incredibly thorough, and that requires a chapter on the subject, at least.

But I do want to correct a few other errors in this  poster’s analysis.

We knew you are searching night and day for Nora.

She said “knew” in the past tense. What could be the reason? I needs to be flagged though it could be a simple error. It could also express a process of thinking about how she felt at a previous time. She knew they would search for the child. Which time frame was she referring to? And why is it significant enough to show up in her speech?

Meabh is Irish, so her pronunciation is different. I don’t hear “knew”, I hear “know”, although the locution is somewhat pinched and high-pitched. While mismatches in tense are a typical feature of deception, that’s not the case here.

We see you working so hard and and also praying with us, being with us.

Bringing in deity needs to also be flagged…

Yes and no. In this instance, this was the morning of an important Muslim holiday, and so prayers were to be expected. We also know there were prayers the previous morning too [Friday] attended by the chief of police, where flyers were also handed out.

I do feel feel uncomfortable about the phraseology and the reference in this section, however. “Praying with us”? The Quoirins aren’t Muslim, and if we want to get technical, it was more likely the Quoirins were praying with the police/soldiers, to Allah, than the other way round. One could argue that the semantics loosely refer to “praying together”, but it doesn’t hold because of how Meabh frames the rest of the sentence:

We see you working so hard and and also praying with us, being with us.

Broken down it’s reduced to:

We see you praying with us.

Unconsciously Meabh may be communicating:

You see [referring to those watching] you [them] praying with us. 

It also feels like “being with us” following on from “praying with us” is done as a modifier, to admit they weren’t necessarily being prayed with, but accompanied in prayer [being with us]. If this is an error, it might indicate nervousness from the child’s mother, which under the circumstances wouldn’t necessarily be a sign of anything. On the other hand, Meabh is a professional speaker. So this one is hard to read.

Overall it feels unnecessary to be talking about prayers, or what the Quoirins have been doing. It’s more important what the SAR teams do today that’s going to be different and more effective compared to the fruitless six days preceding Search Day 7. Nora’s life is on the line.

So regarding the prayers etc. I wouldn’t call this a red flag, but it might be a grey one.

and thank you so much, terimah kasi.

Again she is thanking them. This time also in their language. She has now thanked them multiple times and it appears genuine, so the question is what she is thankful for. She told us. For being there with them. Not with Nora. She also might be thankful for not having discovered anything.

I concur, there is too much gratitude when the police haven’t delivered anything, and there’s too much consideration in this sign-off in the local language. There may be a simple reason for this. It’s possible Meabh’s statement wasn’t entirely voluntary, nor off-the-cuff. She may have been asked, or told, to publicly thank the police given how roundly the police were being criticized and undermined [and thus losing face] in the media.

We might think that by thanking the authorities, Meabh is just being polite, but we’d expect a mother in this situation to be more focused on her child, and on urging the troops to spend more time looking for Nora, than on being with them, praying with them, or thanking them.

Personally I would expect a lot more emotion from both parents, especially since we know they disagreed with the authorities throughout Nora’s disappearance on whether there was an abduction or not. If they didn’t believe Nora wandered off, then this was an opportunity to petition for a search through local villages that had not yet been searched, or to compile a list of pedophiles in the area and go after them. There’s none of that here. Meabh’s getting advice from missing child experts – why not impart some of that expertise to a captive audience now that she has the opportunity?

There’s something else.

Nora’s name is only mentioned twice in the entire statement, and very little information of any value – including about her – is provided to the troops. This is Meabh’s chance to inspire the troops and give them the tools and insight about her daughter that might save her life. Instead she elects to thank the SAR teams. Sebastien elects to say nothing.

I agree with the writer that Meabh had to have been painfully aware of Nora’s limitations, and so the odds were Nora was either already dead when this speech was made, or not long after.

I disagree that Meabh knew or believed for a fact that Nora was dead, because I do think it’s possible Meabh was led to believe Nora was abducted. If those circumstances were true, regardless of how probable they were in reality, then Nora – as far as Meabh and Sebastien were concerned – could have been alive after all. The real question is whether Meabh truly believed Nora was abducted.

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