What time did the Quoirin’s arrive at the airport in Kuala Lumpur? What time did they check-in to The Dusun Resort?

This reference in The Asean Post is the only one that refers to a specific check-in time at The Dusun Resort. 07:00 seems very early. Wasn’t it 7pm?

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The same article also refers to Nora going to sleep upstairs “presumably in her own room”. Quite a cavalier approach to important facts.

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Some of the earliest flights to Kuala Lumpur from London on a Saturday arrive at 14:15.

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The earliest arrival times for flights from both London and Sydney into Kuala Lampur were at 07:15 and 05:00, 06:00 and 08:00 respectively.  The first of these times calls into question the simultaneous check-in at 07:00 at The Dusun Resort. If the family did arrive early in the morning on Saturday, what did they do for the rest of that first day? Did they take any photos?

It will be good to get clarity on these questions as well.

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Mudslinging in the Media Part IV: Malaysian Cops Slam Claims of Inexperienced Searchers Missing Clues while Quoirin Family Refuse to Break their Silence [IMAGE GALLERY]

In the aftermath of this tragedy, there seems to be a strange mismatch in the Quoirin’s actively engaging with the media while their daughter was missing, and publicly thanking the cops during the ongoing search. But after she was found they go radio silent meanwhile, criticism of a botched investigation and police bungling swirls. Unreal.

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Family Dynamics #1: When the Quoirin Family went for a walk, did it look like this?

Sunset on August 3rd, 2019 was at exactly 19:27. Did the family have time after arriving at the hotel from the airport to go for a walk together? Is that when this last photo of Nora was taken? The media has reported that Nora was excited “about seeing” the waterfalls in the area. Does this mean she wanted to see them, or she was excited at the prospect of seeing them, and ultimately never did [on May 3rd?]

Simple question, right?

Here’s another simple question. Is this the last photo of Nora?

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The photo above isn’t the last photo of Nora, it wasn’t even taken in Malaysia. It was taken in Ireland months before the trip to Malaysia. The photo above is from the same location as the one below, Glenevin Waterfall in Clonmany, County Donegal, Ireland.

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The image below of the Quoirin family going for a walk is from a holiday possibly in Bali, Indonesia several years prior to their holiday in Malaysia.

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This raises a few questions. What is the last photo of Nora with her family? Were no photos taken during their first meal together in Malaysia? Were any photos taken at the airport or at the resort?

Why does it feel as if we’ve been misinformed, where a handout photo of Nora at a waterfall is being widely misinterpreted? Is by accident or by design?

Did Nora Quoirin have a preexisting condition, or did the ulcer manifest from scratch over a period of just 1 week?

The language of the autopsy suggests that starvation and stress caused a perforation in the upper gastrointestinal tract. The ulcer developed [or if it was preexisting, was aggravated] in the duodenum, the upper area of the small intestine, not the stomach. There are also differences between the causes of stomach ulcers and duodenal ulcers.

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The autopsy seems to contradict itself by referring to starvation and stress as the cause of death. Wasn’t the mechanism of death from internal bleeding caused in turn by starvation and stress? This may seem like arguing over semantics, but starvation in general  is seldom seen as a cause of death.

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What we can say is there appears to be a relationship between endocrine disorders and holoprosencephaly. Thus the answer to the question appears to be that Nora did have a pre-exisiting condition. Medical history is likely to confirm this, along with a prescribed medical maintenance program. Nora’s parents ought to be in a position to confirm medical treatment in this regard. Hopefully further information in this area will be forthcoming.

A source close to the family said: “We have only been given the 2km information and this hasn’t changed. So I assume the information is incorrect.”

The semantics are strange, aren’t they? A spokesman referring casually to the distance poor Nora was actually found, and admitting – casually – that they assume the critical information is simply incorrect. It feels as if the public are at times more interested in solving the mysteries, inconsistencies and unanswered questions bedeviling this case than those at center of it, doesn’t it?

It makes a difference how far from The Dusun Resort Nora was found. It makes a difference if she was 2 kilometres away, or 1 kilometre or less than 1. If she was only 600 metres away this does raise the possibility that she wandered off, and also that she was likely hiding [naked] from unfamiliar strangers.

It also diminishes the likelihood of an abduction. The greater the distance a child covers [against their will] from home, the greater the organisation and intent of an abduction. But the reverse is also true.

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In the JonBenet Ramsey case, a bogus Ransom Note threw off detectives and cops for several hours. There was minimum searching because the note led people to believe six-year-old JonBenet was being held somewhere else by “a small foreign faction”. In the end, JonBenet was found in the basement of her own home, garroted, sexually abused and with a 8 1/2-inch fracture that ran the length of the right side of her head.

In the Madeleine McCann case, the rush to implicate an abductor led to an “abductor” quickly being identified. This person came forward, even identifying his clothing and that worn by his daughter in a sketch based on witness Jane Tanner’s description [skip to 21:24 of the documentary below].

Tannerman as he was famously called, ended up being Dr. Julian Totman. As absurd as this situation was, it became even more ridiculous. Despite the “abductor” coming forward, the police continued to search for him for four more years. They never found him.

DCI Redwood said it was a “revelation moment” when police discovered that the man seen by McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner at 9.15pm was almost certainly an innocent British holiday-maker collecting his two-year-old daughter from a nearby creche.

He said: “Our focus in terms of understanding what happened on the night of 3 May has now given us a shift of emphasis. We are almost certain that the man seen by Jane Tanner is not Madeleine’s abductor.

“It takes us through to a position at 10pm when we see another man who is walking towards the ocean, close by to the apartment, with a young child in his arms.”

He said they wanted to track down men seen “lurking suspiciously” near the McCanns’ apartment block.

MADDIE BOGUS LEAD  Why did cops investigating Madeleine McCann’s disappearance waste four years on ‘Tannerman’ lead – despite GP saying it was probably him? – The Sun

Madeleine McCann police wasted years hunting for man they had already spoken to – Metro

Madeleine McCann police spent four years trying to ID man seen carrying baby on night toddler disappeared – despite doctor saying it was him – Daily Mail

Madeleine McCann: Police reveal ‘pre-planned abduction’ theory – BBC

In both the JonBenet Ramsey and Madeleine McCann cases, intruders and abductors were implicated with arguably no evidence, so it’s hardly surprising that both cases remain officially unsolved to this day.

We must be careful not to repeat the same mistakes in this case.

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Mudslinging in the Media Part III: Malaysian Police Chief Slams Irish Lawyer Anne Brennan for “Slanderous Accusations”

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Isn’t it ironic, those being prosecuted in the Nora Quoirin case are observers who have tweeted something, or said something unsavory on Facebook. It just calls into question the silence of those at the heart of this case.

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Cops deny claim Nora Quoirin’s family involved in teen’s death – Malay Mail

UK charity denies Nora’s family involved in her death – FMT News

Confusion Continues in Nora Quoirin Case: Now claimed her body was found 600 meters from Resort

When True Crime Rocket Science started covering this case, one of the aspects that stood out as particularly strange was the lack of clarity about where precisely Nora’s body was actually found. The media seemed to assume it was near the Lata Berembum waterfall. But I suspected this was an error. Just because Nora was found near a waterfall didn’t mean it was found near the only waterfall mentioned on Google Maps.

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One hopes the authorities will provide clarity in this area. Once again, providing the GPS co-ordinates is the way to do that. There is also additional information missing, such as precisely when the family checked into the hotel, and when the respective parents arrived in the country, and which airlines they used.

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It also bears mentioning that at this point there is confusion about so many basic aspects:

  1. Did Nora sleep upstairs or downstairs?
  2. Did she sleep in her own room, alone, or with her siblings?
  3. Where exactly was her body found?
  4. What happened to Nora’s clothing? A search should continue for her clothing.
  5. Whose fingerprints were left on the window?
  6. Did Nora leave through the window or through the door?
  7. What are the results of the toxicology?
  8. Have Nora’s family, especially her siblings, been tested for sleeping pills as well?
  9. When will the family provide a proper statement to the authorities explaining their position re: an abduction.
  10. Is this a case of accidental death, negligence or is it a criminal case?

    More: Nora Quoirin: Can we rule out accidental death?

    Demystifying the Nora Quoirin Case: Topography – There were Several Waterfalls

     

“We cannot exclude anything at this stage. In view of the importance of Malaysia’s image for tourism, the authorities may tend to favour the theory of a disappearance over the criminal hypothesis.” – Charles Morel, Quoirin Family Lawyer [PODCAST]

If Nora’s family had anything to do with her disappearance, the motive is unknown. But now her family’s lawyer, Charles Morel, a Frenchman, is suggesting Malaysia may be trying to cover up any criminal element of the crime to protect the tourism industry.

Morel is suggesting that Malaysia is more concerned with its image than investigating this incident. In other words, Malaysia – according to Morel – is trying to market itself in a positive way.

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